[fse-esf] Message from Hungary to ESF Friends
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maniazad at gmx.net
Tue Oct 12 23:08:41 CEST 2010
Dear all, I reminde mr. Endre 2 small points
Dear mr.Endre
1-you wrote "dear members of ESF". who are members of ESF? is there at all such an entity "member of ESF" ? an office,like in parties and fronts,to be registered as members?
2-look at your signature. "ORGANIZER OF HUNGRIAN SOCIAL FORUM".what does it mean? a person has organized the social forum? like an organization or party which is organized by someone who inturn act as its engine and run it?
don't these concepts follow the traditional political culture? that is the mainstream political culture that run the capitalist society and has even impacted the old traditional"left" and made them to behave accordingly? dose your reflection,in your text,carry some elements rooted in that?
best
Piran Azad
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> Datum: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:53:04 +0200 (CEST)
> Von: "Simó Endre" <drsimoendre at freemail.hu>
> An: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org, esfeast at yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [fse-esf] Message from Hungary to ESF Friends
>
>
> Dear Members of the ESF, I prefered to tell You personally in Paris
> what I have written here below, but my ask for a prepaid ticket, beeing
> short of money to advance, seems having put the Organizers of the Assembly face
> to an unsolvable problem. For this reason I cannot take part at the
> meeting. By presenting my considerations I would like to remember You that
> in Porto Alegre 2002 I have personally supported the inititiave to create
> the European Social Forum and helped its presence in Central and Eastern
> Europe. Now, in possession of an eight year experience of the ESF I would like
> to share with You some conclusions we have arrived to in the frame of the
> Hungarian Social Forum – Social Roundtable: The European Social Forum
> is dying, because unable to give adequate answers to concrete social needs.
> From great it was when it met the expectations of a great majority of our
> peoples expressing their fundamental interest for Peace, it became a forum
> of propaganda and of sterile internal discussions, without any impact on
> the life of the european societies.At our opinion the main causes conducing
> to this situation are:- The Leftist avanguardism and sectarism prevailing
> in the ESF process. It is impeding to establish correct links of mutual
> understanding and co-operation with other democratic social forces, also
> interested in the transformation of our societies in the sense of the Charter of
> Porto Alegre, and representing large masses. The dominant political
> behaviour in the ESF impede the implementation of WSF goals, as well as the
> necessary social alliances to achieve them;- The fight for the
> „power”, for the control of the ESF has taken priority on the common fight for
> peoples’ social interests;- The ESF is not the expression of the
> european social reality, but only the expression of an extremely reduced part of
> that reality. This extreme reduced part of the european social reality
> pretends considering itself the expression of the whole reality, without
> having the capacity to be the expression of the whole; - There is a lack of
> respect of elementary rules of democracy in the ESF. Correct proposals and
> initiatives are excluded or deleted from the written minutes of the EPA.
> Representatives of different social organisations are treated slightingly and
> disrespectfully because opposed to the ideological and political pressures
> and impositions, and partisans of the large democratic joining of forces int
> he original spirit of Porto Alegre. We had suffered injuries and
> stigmatisazions („fascists, reactionaries”), because our policy of large
> democratic alliances. (ESF remainded silent face of these intolerable
> attacks, or has taken an „equidistance” attitude, and it has
> encouraged by this an unacceptable political style for us.) We have also
> experienced rough political interferences onto our internal affairs in Hungary:
> there are people in the ESF who have pretended to tell us from abroad what we
> have to do in our country! Divisions and contrapositions inside of our
> national social movements are artificially created by the way of foreign
> financiations based on political and ideological considerations and affiliation
> preferences. In other cases the financial help is not offered to those who
> represent the critical voice of the ESF orientation, and their presence is
> not required because considered as in opposition with the „official
> line” or simply disturbing some „ideological certitudes”
> considered more important than WSF goals. We have arrived to the point,
> in which a clearly definible political group in the ESF pretends now to
> impose anti-democratic methods of social and political fight, like as that used
> against the italian CISL catholic TU, pushing the workers against each to
> others, deviding the democratic forces, and impeding the social
> transformation we have decided to commit ourselves with. 2. At our opinion
> new different tool, a more democratic and more efficient tool is needed in
> the fight for a more human and more just Society.- This tool must be
> directly oriented to the satisfaction of the social demands;- It
> must be democratically efficent, by the way of the building up of the
> participatory democracy system in its own ranks, and by this, open a new way to
> the future accepted by the peoples. It seems to us, that if ESF wants to
> avoid an unglorious end, it has to respect elementary norms of behaviour:
> like as the respect for other opinions, the openness and democratic
> disponibility of co-operation with people not accepting any ideological and
> political impositions. We think that the only chance to follow forward together
> is offering by the co-operation on very defined and concrete points, instead
> of the general globalisation of ideological radicalisms. The method we
> propose to begin on this new way has the following names: dialogue, exchange
> of experiences, openness and readness to understand other problems and
> realities, acceptance of the complexity of the World and the diversity of the
> solutions, instead of uniformisations and stereotyps. Modesty in relation of
> realities we do not know. No refusal a priori of methods and solutions
> conform with other concrete situations. Spirit of service, capacity and
> disponibility to accept our diversity instead of trying to cram the extraordinary
> plural reality in an ideological waistcoat. 3. During these 8 years
> life of the ESF the Hungarian Social Forum has achieved very important
> results: the withdrawal of the hungarian troops from Iraq, the defense of the
> Solidarity based health assurance system, the dismissal of the corrupt
> anti-social socialist-liberal coalition, the banning by law of the evictions, the
> reduction of the charges of the indebted people, the plan to incorporate
> into the hungarian constitution the Housing Right, actually the mobilisation
> against the NATO plan to send hungarian combat troops to Afghanistan. All
> these results have been achieved jointly with other democratic forces. We
> were the organizers, the animators of the mobilisation, but the real actor was
> the people which we never pretended to replace. We are helping our people
> to understand that his destiny is in his hands. We have followed a
> radically different from ESF social and ethical approach to resolve or to moderate
> the social problems, and this democratic approach has produced fruits and
> resulted useful for working people. Our activity is showing that it is
> possible to work to the benefit of the working society also in capitalistic
> circumstances, instead of dreaming with „Worldwide Revolutions”,
> helping by concrete steps the overcoming of the neoliberal reality declared
> int he WSF Charter.It seems to us, that if ESF would not be able to a
> democratic renewal will loose all interest for those europeans who are seeking
> for more useful tools to satisfy their big social needs.We are ready to help
> with our experiences such a renewal, we refuse to continue by the way of
> policies, methods, ideologies some people try to impose to us and to the ESF
> impeding the expansion of the necessary transformation of the existing
> social relationships. Endre SIMÓ, organizer of the
> Hungarian Social Forum – Social Roundtable Budapest, 10th October 2010
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