[fse-esf] Re: [fse-es) Appeal on Osetia.

[Simó Endre]

I support the initiative of Alla Glinchikova concerning this:  "Lets create such strategy of civil solidarity and integration in Eastern Europe to prevent involvement of it´s peoples into bloody conflicts."
I propose to send immediately a delegation to the EU in order to present the interest of the civil society to the preservation of the peace and the political solution of the conflict in that area. We had to tell, we are not interested in sending nor NATO or EU troops to the region, on the contrary, we are interested to make steps toward a collectif european defense system integrating Russia and all those former soviet republics, who want to co-operate for a really secure continent.
I propose as members of such a delegation: a friend from Russia, a friend from Central Europe, a friend from Western Europe.
Let's call such a delegation "the civic peace keeping delegation of the European Social Forum".
In case, this would take many time, I suggest as alternative to publish an open letter containing our demands and aims to be co-ordinated between us. (I see similar steps: Alla, Mouvement de la Paix, Hungarian SF-SR).

     Endre



alla glinchikova <aglinchikova at yandex.ru> írta: 


> Dear friends,
>         I think it is very important to understand, that the conflict in Osetia is the conflict, which takes place in Europe, that Eastern Europe again ( after Yugoslavia) was used by the United states to destabilize the situation in our region. And there is also our common fault and our own responsibility to confront this practice of hunting European nations and to launch the fire in our region to help dollar to rise.
>        We, people of good will of common Europe should ask ourselves, what we did to prevent the catastrophe? We also should ask, what is the real cause of  catastrophe and what should we do to prevent it?
>        When modern neoliberal fascist explain you, that the cause of these catastrophe in Europe is the existence of Russian people in the world and only physical extermination of Russian people, surrounding them with military bases, throwing them out of international organizations, claiming them as uncivilized monsters can give the "final solution" of all European and world problems- don´t trust them.
>      Russian people are not angels, but who is angel? Americans, French, Italians,... ? Who can say, we are better then you as human beings and that is why we deserve to live and you deserve to die? This is the way abyss.
>      But why precisely  Eastern Europe is constantly used by US political clique to launch European fire? (And I assure you, that it would be used again and again, if we do not take measures here.) East European countries, which came out of so called "socialist" regimes have very weak societies, which can not control their governments. And it is not simply because of authoritarian character of previous regimes, but also because this regime used state to provide social issues and purely substituted society in social activity. These societies got used to get support, care and protection from state and were not allowed to develop it´s internal integrity and social sovereignty. They could be more or less strong to fight against other states, but absolutely unprotected from their own.  As long as socialist was ideology was strong and popular, it compelled such state to take care of people to some extent, at least within it´s frames.  But the corruption of socialist and communist ideology in the eyes of people contributed tremendously to changing communist bureaucracy ( constrained more or less with "socialist" ideology) into neoliberal bureaucracy ( without any moral and social constrains). That was the initial phase of transformation.  The change of nature of states in East European countries happened rapidly as well as the economic privatization of common wealth.  Together with privatization there were declared all democratic  forms ( parliaments, multy party systems, representative democracy, social movements). But the societies remained disintegrated and very paternalistic in their way of life and political behavior. Because political culture of people could not change as rapidly as the property systems and nature of bureaucracy. The result - modern East European countries ( with some not so important in this sense difference) have governments formally democratically elected by societies, which can not control these governments  in reality.
>     This situation creates  unprecedented opportunities for those forces who would like to use the leaders of these countries for their own destructive purposes.  This situation creates ideal ground for hunting people and nations of these states not only because these nations are civilly disintegrated and cannot resist antinational politics of their governments, but also because these nations are not wealthy, they don´t have good economic position and very easily "swallow" nationalist and even fascists slogans, that are usually used to  "warm"  their self-identification spirit. They move not in the direction of civil, but in the direction of nationalist and even racist self-identification.  I want to stress, that racist self-identification can not be justified with the size of nation. Fascism is fascism and racism is racism no matter big or small is nation, which proclaims it.  And now in Osetia we see that racism of small nation ( Georgia) can become very dangerous, when it becomes the instrument of cynical neoliberal Global clique. We see now, that after defeat of attempt to exterminate Osetians it appeals to all Europe to arrange the World war for extermination of Russian people.
>        What shall we do? I am Russian, but I want to say, that I know, that this fascist ideology has nothing to do with our Georgian brothers, who , I am sure feel the same as we. I also want to say it about Ukranians, and other East Europeans. I know they don´t want American radars on their territories, they don´t want to kill Russians and they don´t trust that Russians would kill them. But we are disintegrated, we are separated.  I don´t even speak, that we are separated from western people.  And my question, what was done to break this tendency by all of us? Was it estimated as high priority not in words, but in actions?  Is there a strategy of developing of civil diplomacy to enhance civil trust in Eastern Europe? 
>      I think usual formal resolutions cannot substitute consequent and persistent strategy and politics of European left towards prevailing development and establishment of all European  civil peoples solidarity. I am not lower, I am historian . So, I cannot suggest concrete forms and steps, how it could be. But e have many specialists in different political and cultural areas within ESF. Lets create such strategy of civil solidarity and integration in Eastern Europe to prevent involvement of it´s peoples into bloody conflicts.
>    I want to support the considerations of Enfre Simo from Hungarian Social Forum, who was the only one, who responded to my appeal to discuss this issue, when we were really at the eve of terrible all European confrontation. And I hope that this initiative would have support and consideration.
> In solidarity,
> Alla Glinchikova
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> 11.08.08, 21:11, "Simó Endre" <drsimoendre at freemail.hu>:
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> Dear Friends, Some reflexions about the conflict in South Ossetia: Western powers have to take note of the fact, that american backed Sakashvilliâ019s military step to oblige South Ossetia to the territorial integration into Georgia has failed.South Ossetia has the right to decide freely between self-determination or integration into an other state.There are not only western interests, there exist also russian interests.Soviet Union has collapsed, but Russia continue representing an important counterbalance vis a vis of the expansion of the NATO towards East and the Caucasus. Instead of the unilateralism of the US defense system represented by the NATO a new european collectif system of defense is needed with the inclusion of Russia and the former soviet republics, in order to grant collectively peace and security in Europe.The projected anti-ballistic missile system in Poland, Czekia and Hungary (radar), the inclusion into the NATO of the baltic states, the project to do the same with Georgia cannot be considered as steps toward the strenghtening of the self-determination of the peoples, but - on the contrary - their use against other peoples.Human rights and democracy in Russia, in China and in other eastern countries cannot be assured by missiles and by denying their national interests, but only by peaceful co-operation and total respect of the sovreignty of those peoples.                                         Endre Simó, Hungarian Social Forum organizer11 August 2008 
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