AW: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008!

Thu Apr 10 20:54:01 CEST 2008

Dear Josu,

the meeting was decided because we thought that the program process would have opened on early March. Due to technical problems the process opened a few days ago. It is obvious that:

a) until the end of April only few people (those who are already inside the ESF process) will have submitted their proposals
b) there are not so many things to discuss in Malmo on the 26
c) we are going to need a new international meeting of the working group for the merging process just before or just after Kiev
d) we the westerners who can afford to pay for many  tickets we are going to take the decisions.

The more international meetings we organize, the less participation and democracy we have in the ESF.

Anyway i will be in Malmo and i send you all all my love.

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From: esk at esk-sindikatua.org
Subject: Re: AW: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008!
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:35:17 +0200
To: yannisalmpanis at hotmail.com

 Dear Yannis, dear all
As you know, it's collected in the minutes from , the decision for the program working group meeting was took in the EPA at the same time of May 31st as the deadline for submitting program proposals. Everybody was conscious about this contradiction but the final consensus (even if I thought better the next week) was to have the program group meeting on 26/27 of april, so 4-5 days before. That means that we can develop our work on the most of the submitted proposals and other questions like noted by Alexandra, Hugo and Erhard. 
In any case I will be good to encourage everybody to submit their proposals before the 25/26 and finish the process in Kiev.
in solidarity
Josu

El 09/04/2008, a las 14:33, Yannis Almpanis escribió:I have also bought ticket for Malmo. But could you explain me what will be the content of the meeting?

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From: esk at esk-sindikatua.org
Subject: Re: AW: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008!
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:52:50 +0200
To: braun at attac.de

Only to say that they are people (like me) that already have booking both the flight and the hotel. So, please respect the decision took in Berlin.
All the best
Josu

El 09/04/2008, a las 10:41, Hugo Braun escribió:I fully support Alessandra and underline the necessity of that meeting.From the German situation it was helpful to postpone the deadline to May 31st. Best regards Hugo Braun -------------------------------------------------------------------Hugo BraunMitglied des Attac KoordinierungskreisesMetzer Str. 8,    D-40476 DüsseldorfTel. +49 211 674980Mailto: braun at attac.dewww.attac.de-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org [mailto:fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org] Im Auftrag von a.mecozzi
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2008 19:03
An: Yannis Almpanis; ESF 2008; fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
Betreff: R: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008! Please, nordic committee  confirm the meeting and send us an agenda for it. I think we cannot change, and we have to use the time in order to discuss criteria for merging and other points of the programme (there are many!"). Furthermore, remember that several peoples did already buy their tickets! All the bestAlessandra Mecozzi-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org [mailto:fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org]Per conto di Yannis Almpanis
Inviato: martedì 8 aprile 2008 15.26
A: ESF 2008; fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
Oggetto: RE: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008!I am very sorry, but if the  deadline for the program proposals is May 31 why we sould meet in Malmo on April 26? What are we going to merge?Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:09:20 +0200
From: info at esf2008.org
To: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
Subject: [fse-esf] propose program activities for ESF 2008!Hi all ESF:ers!Finally, after several delays, the final application form for submitting program proposals is now ready at the ESF 2008 website (esf2008.org). We apologize for all the delays. The process for submitting program activities will be open until May 31st. Please spread the invitation to participate bellow in your organizations, networks and as broadly as possible!If you have any questuions about taking part in the program, don't hesitate to contact us at program at esf2008.org.---Take part in creating another Europe!Participate with program activities at the fifth European Social Forum in Malmö on September 17-21thThis autumn the fifth European Social Forum (ESF) will be held in Malmö, Sweden. It is the first ESF in Scandinavia and is expected to gather more than 20.000 people from all around Europe. ESF is the European counterpart to the World Social Forum and has become the clearly largest arena for trade unions, social movements and a progressive civil society who wants another Europe - and another World.In a Europe of division between East and West, threatening social dumping and diminished labor rights, privatizations and decreased public welfare, democratic deficit in the EU, growing walls towards people in the rest of the world and an ever more urgent need for radical action to tackle a coming climate disaster, ESF is needed now more than ever! Take part in making a social, just, ecological sustainable and democratic Europe possible - another Europe for us living in Europe - and another Europe which is necessary for creating another world!The program of the ESF is created by all participating organizations. Your organization and your experiences are crucial! Take the opportunity to submit proposals for program activities - workshops, seminars, assemblies and so on - directly at our website (http://www.esf2008.org). It will be possible to submit proposals for program activities until May 31st. At our website you will also find all the necessary information about ESF in Malmö, the Nordic organizing committee, how to register your organization and submit program proposals, and how process to build the ESF program is working.The big focus for this ESF will be in alliance building, mobilization and to create concrete collaborations for new initiatives, actions and campaigns. The ESF is not merely an arena for contemplating the current states of affairs in Europe and the World - it is about creating real change and making another Europe and another World possible! Furthermore there will be extra efforts in order to achieve as broad and deep participation as possible from Eastern Europe.In short: Warmly welcome to participate in the fifth ESF in Malmö and to submit your proposals for program activities! And please help us to spread this invitation as broadly as possible through your organizations, networks and contacts!Lets build another Europe and another World!/The program group, Nordic organizing committee
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