[fse-esf] About the EPA in Frankfurt
Doug Holton
doug at abelard.org.uk
Tue Oct 10 10:27:36 CEST 2006
I am inclined to agree with what has been said.
Unfortunately I seem to have been missed off the list for Hugo's
original although I responded immediately to his first e-mail. Can
somebody help. Could it have been a problem my end?
Thanks and solidarity
Doug Holton
On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, at 08:02 AM, <ekodim at otenet.gr> wrote:
> Good morning
>
> just a remark:
> i think that the question is not precisely about greek but about non-
> dominant languages ( central-eastern european including greek )
> Moreover the poin of Anastasia is important>
>
> -------------------------
>
> Bonjour
>
> juste une precision: je pense que la question ne concerne pas
> specialement le grec mais les langues non-dominantes ( europe
> centrale-est dons le grec inclus)
>
> Comradely
>
>
> Dimitri Ekopnomides
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Haris Golemis <golemis at eppnp.gr> åßðå:
>
>> Dear all,
>> Not including Greek as one of the languages of the next EPA is not
> a
>> wise decision. I hope that our German friends will try to correct
> this
>> mistake.
>> Haris Golemis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org
>> [mailto:fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org] On Behalf Of Prokes
>> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:10 PM
>> To: FSE ESF
>> Subject: Re: [fse-esf] About the EPA in Frankfurt
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I agree with Anastasia.
>> I am glad that Hugo and the German comrades took up the tough work
> to
>> organize the next EPA in Frankfurt (however, the following EPA
> after
>> Frankfurt has to be organized in Central/Eastern European region
> with
>> all efforts!).
>> I have to remind another very important issue about this EPA: it
> has
>> been postponed to the first weekend in November, thus coinciding
> with
>> the Global Day against Climate Change 4th of November. We should
>> organize or at least join an activity against the global climate
> change
>> during this EPA.
>> Even more important it is not to harm the climate just with our
> own
>> transport to Frankfurt. Frankfurt/Main has the most excellent
> train
>> connection in Europe with international trains arriving there at
> 300
>> km/h every hour.
>> I do not speak about participants from Greece, Russia or Portugal
> but I
>> would not be glad to see German participants flying thereto.
> Should we:
>> - keep at the rules we have introduced in Athens for registration
> fees
>> and travel reimbursements (not for flights under 1000 km)
>> - change the invitation so that we offer trains in the first
> place,
>> transport from the airport thereafter?
>> I would like very much to make there rules a good tradition, not
> needing
>>
>> to push for them for each and every EPA again.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you in Ffm and having a fruitful debate,
>>
>> Mirek Prokes, Initiative for Social Fora (Czechia)
>>
>>
>> Anastasia Lampropoulou wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> During the organization of the 4^th ESF in Athens, Babels
> assisted
>>>>> by ALIS group strived to provide passive -at least-
> interpretation
>>>>> in more than 20 languages. This choice was not a luxury that
> the
>>>>> Greek Organizing Committee could afford to offer to the
>>>>> participants. It was a conscious political decision; both
> Babels-el
>>>>> and the Organizing Committee knew that not so many languages
> were
>>>>> "strictly" needed for carrying out the 4^th ESF. However, at
> the
>>>>> expense of organizing the EL booth in a better way, Babels-el
> and
>>>>> the Organizing Committee decided that it was politically
> important
>>>>> to send the participants the message that we are doing our
> best to
>>>>> make everyone's voice heard.
>>>>> I was extremely surprised to find out that our effort to break
> the
>>>>> barrier of the widely spoken languages and to include Eastern
>>>>> European ones was not noticed by anyone. In the first EPA for
> the
>>>>> 5^th ESF, there will be interpretation only in English, French
> and
>>>>> German. There was not even a thought or a discussion about
> including
>>
>>>>> an Eastern European language such as Polish.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I -I know it's a bit late but I lost track of the
> developments
>>
>>>>> because I faced health problems lately- read the message of
> Hugo
>>>>> Braun about the topics that will be discussed in the EPA. The
> first
>>>>> topic is the evaluation of the 4^th ESF and how we are going
> to
>>>>> proceed. However, so as to hold this discussion and make the
> most of
>>
>>>>> it, you should at least consider to provide simultaneous
>>>>> interpretation from and into Greek since a number of Greeks
> are
>>>>> going to travel to Frankfurt to talk about their experience
> and
>>>>> discuss about the process. Some of them speak neither English
> nor
>>>>> French nor German and others although might speak one of the
>>>>> above-mentioned languages, they are anything but fluent.
>>>>> Anastasia Lampropoulou
>>>>> Babels-el
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Best wishes
Doug Holton
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