[fse-esf] About the EPA in Frankfurt

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Good morning

just a remark:
i think that the question is not precisely about greek but about non-
dominant languages ( central-eastern european including greek ) 
Moreover the poin of Anastasia is important>

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Bonjour

juste une precision: je pense que la question ne concerne pas 
specialement le grec mais les langues non-dominantes ( europe 
centrale-est dons le grec inclus)

Comradely


Dimitri Ekopnomides

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Haris Golemis <golemis at eppnp.gr> åßðå:

> Dear all,
> Not including Greek as one of the languages of the next EPA is not 
a
> wise decision. I hope that our German friends will try to correct 
this
> mistake.
> Haris Golemis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org
> [mailto:fse-esf-bounces at lists.fse-esf.org] On Behalf Of Prokes
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:10 PM
> To: FSE ESF
> Subject: Re: [fse-esf] About the EPA in Frankfurt
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I agree with Anastasia.
> I am glad that Hugo and the German comrades took up the tough work 
to 
> organize the next EPA in Frankfurt (however, the following EPA 
after 
> Frankfurt has to be organized in Central/Eastern European region 
with 
> all efforts!).
> I have to remind another very important issue about this EPA: it 
has 
> been postponed to the first weekend in November, thus coinciding 
with 
> the Global Day against Climate Change 4th of November. We should 
> organize or at least join an activity against the global climate 
change 
> during this EPA.
> Even more important it is not to harm the climate just with our 
own 
> transport to Frankfurt. Frankfurt/Main has the most excellent 
train 
> connection in Europe with international trains arriving there at 
300 
> km/h every hour.
> I do not speak about participants from Greece, Russia or Portugal 
but I 
> would not be glad to see German participants flying thereto. 
Should we:
> - keep at the rules we have introduced in Athens for registration 
fees 
> and travel reimbursements (not for flights under 1000 km)
> - change the invitation so that we offer trains in the first 
place, 
> transport from the airport thereafter?
> I would like very much to make there rules a good tradition, not 
needing
> 
> to push for them for each and every EPA again.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing you in Ffm and having a fruitful debate,
> 
> Mirek Prokes, Initiative for Social Fora (Czechia)
> 
> 
> Anastasia Lampropoulou wrote:
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> During the organization of the 4^th ESF in Athens, Babels 
assisted 
> >>> by ALIS group strived to provide passive -at least- 
interpretation 
> >>> in more than 20 languages. This choice was not a luxury that 
the 
> >>> Greek Organizing Committee could afford to offer to the 
> >>> participants. It was a conscious political decision; both 
Babels-el 
> >>> and the Organizing Committee knew that not so many languages 
were 
> >>> "strictly" needed for carrying out the 4^th ESF. However, at 
the 
> >>> expense of organizing the EL booth in a better way, Babels-el 
and 
> >>> the Organizing Committee decided that it was politically 
important 
> >>> to send the participants the message that we are doing our 
best to 
> >>> make everyone's voice heard.
> >>> I was extremely surprised to find out that our effort to break 
the 
> >>> barrier of the widely spoken languages and to include Eastern 
> >>> European ones was not noticed by anyone. In the first EPA for 
the 
> >>> 5^th ESF, there will be interpretation only in English, French 
and 
> >>> German. There was not even a thought or a discussion about 
including
> 
> >>> an Eastern European language such as Polish.
> >>>  
> >>> Today I -I know it's a bit late but I lost track of the 
developments
> 
> >>> because I faced health problems lately- read the message of 
Hugo 
> >>> Braun about the topics that will be discussed in the EPA. The 
first 
> >>> topic is the evaluation of the 4^th ESF and how we are going 
to 
> >>> proceed. However, so as to hold this discussion and make the 
most of
> 
> >>> it, you should at least consider to provide simultaneous 
> >>> interpretation from and into Greek since a number of Greeks 
are 
> >>> going to travel to Frankfurt to talk about their experience 
and 
> >>> discuss about the process. Some of them speak neither English 
nor 
> >>> French nor German and others although might speak one of the 
> >>> above-mentioned languages, they are anything but fluent.
> >>> Anastasia Lampropoulou
> >>> Babels-el
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