[fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration

[Alp Altinors]

We all had seen Petros in the Assembly which was made after the march -he 
was very healthy and shouting loudly... I think this has no relation with 
the conflict in the march. Whatsoever, tell our best wishes for him to 
improve.

By the way, if a discussion about "violence" should be done, this is the 
violence applied by the sections of the SWP over all other organizations, 
imposing itself unilaterally to "march in the front". There was a clear, 
discussed decision and everyone ought to comply with it. SWP cannot be an 
exception.


>From: <sek at otenet.gr>
>To: "Globalise Resistance" <office at resist.org.uk>, <tina at cpgb.org.uk>
>CC: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 13:17:19 -0000
>
>Dear Friends
>Some of you may be wandering why Petros Constantinou is not intervening in
>this discussion. He is after all one of the best known activists of the 
>greek
>Organising `committe of the 4th ESF.. I am sorry to inform you that Petros 
>is in
>fact in Hospital, after the attacks he received last Saturday from the
>"safeguard" people. Perhaps the greek social forum should visit him to
>apologise
>all the best
>Panos Garganas
>editor
>Ergatiki Allilenghii
>
>
>Globalise Resistance <office at resist.org.uk> åßðå:
>
> > I find it disturbing but unsurprising that Tina finds no way of
> > condemning the comrade(s) who decided to send an exclusively male
>group
> > to police the demo.
> >
> > Arguments on demos? Something for the men obviously. Were there any
> > female stewards on the march? I didn't see any, not one. Perhaps we
> > should all just make the women tail behind and keep nice and safe. As
> > for when the demo started there was never any attempt to change the
> > order, and the macho stewards continued in their heroic role, ignoring
> > the front where any attempt by outside forces would have concentrated.
> > That's maybe why there is usually a large number of stewards at the
> > front of any demo. To try to accuse the IST of collaborating with the
> > anarchists is just bizarre.
> >
> > Guy Taylor
> >
> > On 10 May 2006, at 10:30, tina at cpgb.org.uk wrote:
> >
> > > Strange.... I was at the demonstration and saw what was happening - it
> > > looked rather different to what Guy is describing. A longer report
> > > will be
> > > appearing in tomorrow's Weekly Worker, but I don't think the SWP's
> > > 'falsification of history' deserves to remain unchallenged even for
> > > another
> > > day.
> > >
> > > Clearly, the Greek organising committee decided (with a majority vote?
> > > with
> > > consensus? I don't know) that the front of the march should be made up
> > > of
> > > delegations from all over Europe - ie, like was the good practise at
> > > every
> > > other ESF. Comrade Natascha even announced this on the Friday night at
> > > the
> > > daily meeting of the non-existing ESF leadership ;-). There was at
> > > least
> > > one leading SWP member present, as well as plenty of members from the
> > > SWP’s
> > > internationalised sect, the IST. None of them disagreed with Natascha 
>-
> > > silence.
> > >
> > > Then on Saturday morning, we saw members of the Greek IST section
>(SEK,
> > > Genoa 2001 etc) push to the front of the march. Members of the Greek
> > > Social
> > > Forum warned them that the front was reserved for the international
> > > delegations - as they knew very well.
> > >
> > > But under the watchful eyes of SWP tops Alex Callinicos, Chris Harman
> > > and
> > > Chris Nineham (we have taken a very good picture of them) the Greek
>SEK
> > > organiser Maria Styllou organised her troops to carry on pushing to 
>the
> > > front.
> > >
> > > What then happened is truly disgusting and deserves condemnation from
> > > all
> > > democrats and socialists in Europe. She actually organised a row of
> > > young,
> > > female SEK comrades to be at the ‘frontline’ - obviously hoping that
> > > women
> > > would not get pushed back. When this trick did not work out, the IST
> > > comrades started shouting about sexism and macho-ism (just like Guy
> > > does) -
> > > when in fact it was them who didn’t give a shit about the welfare of
> > > their
> > > young female comrades by sending them to the ‘frontline’.
> > >
> > >  The SWP has been applying similar tactics in Britain and - I’m told -
> > > many
> > > other countries where they are organised. They send women comrades to
> > > attack critical voices and oppositionists - but they always have a row
> > > of
> > > men behind them so that they can start fighting when people defend
> > > themselves.
> > >
> > > CPGB members had leaflets ripped out of their hands by SWP women
>and
> > > materials wiped off our info stalls - but we know of much worse
> > > experiences
> > > from other people (who do not have the advantage of their publication
> > > being
> > > read by tens of thousands of people every week).
> > >
> > > It was the IST who tried to sabotage the demonstration and good on the
> > > Greek organising comrades for successfully defending the march.
> > >
> > > As an aside: when anarchists tried to hijack the front of our
> > > demonstration
> > > to attack the police, there were hardly any stewards around. Where 
>were
> > > they? At the back, keeping the SWP in check.
> > >
> > > So, SWP comrades, that was really an ‘intervention’ to be proud of -
> > > and
> > > don’t worry, everybody will know the truth about it.
> > >
> > > With comradely greetings
> > >
> > > Tina Becker
> > > Communist Party of Great Britain
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -----------------
> > > From: Globalise Resistance office at resist.org.uk
> > > Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:31:39 +0100
> > > To: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
> > >
> > >
> > > The Social Forum was indeed a huge success, the attendance of a large
> > > number of Eastern European delegates and especially the huge
>contingent
> > > from Turkey is absolutely welcome and needs to be lauded. However, a
> > > few corrections to the below press release are needed:
> > >> For the first time in a European Social Forum, trade unions had a
> > >> significant role as members of the organizing committee.
> > > This was not the first time. In Florence and London the trade unions
> > > were prominent (It may also have been the case in Paris, but it was
> > > more difficult to tell). In London the treasurer, and some of the key
> > > organisers were trade union representatives. The events received much
> > > input from trade Unions, both organisationally and financially. It is
> > > misleading to claim otherwise. 
> > >> To the hundreds of volunteers of the Greek Social Forum, who did 
>their
> > >> best for the organization of the 4th ESF. To them we owe the success
> > >> of the event.
> > > It seems a little remiss to concentrate your gratitude on one group of
> > > the organisation. Notable was the friction in the organisation of the
> > > forum, perhaps a little thanks beyond your own ranks might be 
>gracious.
> > >> To the Greek Social Forum’s teams of safeguard that contributed in
> > >> the
> > >> successful finishing of the rally as it was originally planned by the
> > >> organizing committee.
> > > If that is referring to what I think it is, perhaps the phrase "macho,
> > > sexist, violent, self appointed police" might be a more accurate term
> > > than "teams of safeguard".
> > >
> > > guy taylor
> > > globalise resistance
> > >
> > > On 8 May 2006, at 10:55, Tasos Koronakis wrote:
> > >
> > >> 4th European Social Forum: its success exceeded even the most
> > >> optimistic expectations
> > >> Press Release
> > >> The success of the 4th European Social Forum (Athens 4-7th May)
> > >> exceeded even the most optimistic expectations. With 100.000 people
> > >> participating in the rally and with more than 35.000 participants
> > >> attending the seminars and workshops, the Forum proved both the
> > >> potential of the Greek movements and the strength of the alterglobal
> > >> movement. For four days, Athens was the European capital of
> > >> resistance, for four days, tens of thousands of people have been
> > >> sending the message: Another world is possible!
> > >> Â 
> > >> Beside the mass participation we should also mention some qualitative
> > >> characteristics of the 4th ESF:
> > >> 1.       The participation of activists from Eastern Europe and
> > > Turkey
> > >> was larger than ever (more than 2.000 people), showing that the Forum
> > >> embraces the whole continent and not just Western Europe.
> > >> 2.       There has been mass attendance in the seminars and
> > > workshops.
> > >> People came to listen and discuss, not just to browse around.
> > >> 3.        For the first time in a European Social Forum, trade
> > > unions
> > >> had a significant role as members of the organizing committee.
> > >> 4.        Art and culture had a central place in the Forum, 
>with
> > > more
> > >> than 120 cultural events and with a participation of hundreds of
> > >> artists.
> > >> Â 
> > >> The greek social forum addresses its warmest greetings:
> > >> ·          To the thousands of citizens from all over Greece
> > >> and
> > >
> > >> abroad who filled the streets of Athens and marched with 
>determination
> > >> despite the throw of tear-gas from the police
> > >> ·          To the hundreds of volunteers of the Greek Social
> > > Forum,
> > >> who did their best for the organization of the 4th ESF. To them we 
>owe
> > >> the success of the event.
> > >> ·          To the Greek Social Forum’s teams of safeguard
> > >> that
> > >
> > >> contributed in the successful finishing of the rally as it was
> > >> originally planned by the organizing committee.
> > >> Â 
> > >> Â 
> > >> The groups that used the demonstrators as a protection shield between
> > >> them and the police, showed with their actions that they consider the
> > >> Forum and its people as enemies. Their behavior during Saturday’s
> > >> rally is a sample of an extreme authoritarian political behavior.
> > >> With the closing of the 4th ESF, we have every reason to be 
>optimistic
> > >> for the potential of the alterglobal movement as well as for the
> > >> forthcoming struggles in Greece. All those of us who were present in
> > >> the events taking place in the 4th ESF, sensed the breath of a
> > >> forthcoming Spring…
> > >>
> > >>  The press office
> > >>  of the Greek Social Forum
> > >>  Â 
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