[fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration

[Jon Cloke]

Indeed.. doubtless in the same way that Colin Powell was in the 'leadership' 
of the Bush administration. Tokenism has long been a well-used tool of white 
male politics of left and right.

And speaking of well-used tools, how are you today?


From: Globalise Resistance <office at resist.org.uk>
To: "Jon Cloke" <damage61 at hotmail.com>
CC: fse esf <fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org>
Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 15:00:39 +0100

Your very mention of Lindsey's name proves you are a liar - one of the women 
in the leadership of the SWP. Idiot.

On 10 May 2006, at 14:29, Jon Cloke wrote:

>Touch a nerve, did I? Still, never mind, you can always send Lindsay German 
>out to make a cup of tea for you, you new man you!
>
>
>From: Globalise Resistance <office at resist.org.uk>
>To: "Jon Cloke" <damage61 at hotmail.com>
>CC: tina at cpgb.org.uk, kh at xminy.nl, fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:33:56 +0100
>
>Less, you lying idiot
>
>On 10 May 2006, at 14:23, Jon Cloke wrote:
>
>>Would that be more 'disturbing but unsurprising' than the fact that a 
>>group like the SWP/IST pretends concern about the empowerment of women and 
>>yet is run exclusively by white middle-class men, or less 'disturbing but 
>>unsurprising', Guy?
>>
>>Jon Cloke
>>
>>
>>From: <kh at xminy.nl>
>>To: <tina at cpgb.org.uk>
>>CC: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>>Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
>>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:42:44 +0200 (CEST)
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I find it disturbing but unsurprising that Tina finds no way of
>> > condemning the comrade(s) who decided to send an exclusively male group
>> >  to police the demo.
>>
>>writes Guy Taylor (SWP)
>>
>>Interestingly you don't discuss the real issues put forward in the
>>original message, like the fact that you and your sectarian group tried to
>>take over the front of the march (against all agreements) (see for
>>instance:)
>>
>> >>
>> >> Then on Saturday morning, we saw members of the Greek IST section
>> >> (SEK, Genoa 2001 etc) push to the front of the march. Members of the
>> >> Greek   Social
>> >> Forum warned them that the front was reserved for the international
>> >> delegations - as they knew very well.
>> >>
>> >> But under the watchful eyes of SWP tops Alex Callinicos, Chris Harman
>> >>  and
>> >> Chris Nineham (we have taken a very good picture of them) the Greek
>> >> SEK organiser Maria Styllou organised her troops to carry on pushing
>> >> to the front.
>> >
>>
>>or this:
>>
>> >> CPGB members had leaflets ripped out of their hands by SWP women and
>> >> materials wiped off our info stalls - but we know of much worse
>> >> experiences
>> >> from other people (who do not have the advantage of their publication
>> >>  being
>> >> read by tens of thousands of people every week).
>>
>>
>>Why don't you react to that instead of deviating the attention towards a
>>non-discussion?
>>
>>Kees, XminY Amsterdam
>>
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