[fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration

[Jon Cloke]

Touch a nerve, did I? Still, never mind, you can always send Lindsay German 
out to make a cup of tea for you, you new man you!


From: Globalise Resistance <office at resist.org.uk>
To: "Jon Cloke" <damage61 at hotmail.com>
CC: tina at cpgb.org.uk, kh at xminy.nl, fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:33:56 +0100

Less, you lying idiot

On 10 May 2006, at 14:23, Jon Cloke wrote:

>Would that be more 'disturbing but unsurprising' than the fact that a group 
>like the SWP/IST pretends concern about the empowerment of women and yet is 
>run exclusively by white middle-class men, or less 'disturbing but 
>unsurprising', Guy?
>
>Jon Cloke
>
>
>From: <kh at xminy.nl>
>To: <tina at cpgb.org.uk>
>CC: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Subject: Re: [fse-esf] 4th ESF Press release-Declaration
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:42:44 +0200 (CEST)
>
>
> >
> > I find it disturbing but unsurprising that Tina finds no way of
> > condemning the comrade(s) who decided to send an exclusively male group
> >  to police the demo.
>
>writes Guy Taylor (SWP)
>
>Interestingly you don't discuss the real issues put forward in the
>original message, like the fact that you and your sectarian group tried to
>take over the front of the march (against all agreements) (see for
>instance:)
>
> >>
> >> Then on Saturday morning, we saw members of the Greek IST section
> >> (SEK, Genoa 2001 etc) push to the front of the march. Members of the
> >> Greek   Social
> >> Forum warned them that the front was reserved for the international
> >> delegations - as they knew very well.
> >>
> >> But under the watchful eyes of SWP tops Alex Callinicos, Chris Harman
> >>  and
> >> Chris Nineham (we have taken a very good picture of them) the Greek
> >> SEK organiser Maria Styllou organised her troops to carry on pushing
> >> to the front.
> >
>
>or this:
>
> >> CPGB members had leaflets ripped out of their hands by SWP women and
> >> materials wiped off our info stalls - but we know of much worse
> >> experiences
> >> from other people (who do not have the advantage of their publication
> >>  being
> >> read by tens of thousands of people every week).
>
>
>Why don't you react to that instead of deviating the attention towards a
>non-discussion?
>
>Kees, XminY Amsterdam
>
>
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