[fse-esf] Stalinist banner at the European Social Forum

[Jon Cloke]

Dear Alp,

You've been watching Monty Python, haven't you...


From: "Alp Altinors" <farabundo_marti at hotmail.com>
To: Neulicher at gmx.de
CC: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
Subject: RE: [fse-esf] Stalinist banner at the European Social Forum
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 21:19:23 +0000

Martin Neulicher,

I think you are from the Trotskyst group who tried to take down by force, 
the banner including the poster of Stalin. This was a very anti-democratic 
attitude, and was condemned by all the Organization Committee. MLKP had 
their banner hanged once again.

Every party has their own socialism conception and noone has the right to 
apply violence over the other parts of the movement. It is not the first 
time the MLKP had attended the European Social Forum, but it is the first 
time that some crazy Trotskysts tried to take down this party's banner down. 
It was a good example of applying totalitarism under the slogan of 
"anti-totalitarism". This was a provocation.

Of course it is not a coincidence that your views about Stalin are exactly 
the same with the anti-communist memorandum held in the European Council.

To Jon Cloke> I know that you are a fanatic of bourgeois democracy and it is 
useless to discuss with you. Be sure that Marxist and revolutionary parties 
will have a day by day growing influence on the social movements.

ALP ALTINORS
SOCIALIST PLATFORM OF THE OPPRESSED (ESP)



>From: "Martin Neulicher" <Neulicher at gmx.de>
>To: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Subject: [fse-esf] Stalinist banner at the European Social Forum
>Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 10:35:12 +0200 (MEST)
>
>Stalinist banner at the European Social Forum
>Where admission of political parties can lead to
>
>The charter of Porto Alegre, formulating the principles of the
>World Social Forum, excludes political parties and military
>organisations from the social forums - their members of course are welcome
>as individuals.
>
>This years' European Social Forum in Athens unfortunately did not follow
>these principle of the charter of Porto Alegre: political parties have been
>admitted, and mainly dogmatic-communist ones came. They presented their
>slogans all over the forum. At one stall one could buy T-shirts with 
>Stalin.
>This development culminated in a big banner of the Turkish MLKP, that one
>could not oversee: it hung above an entrance of the three main buildings.
>
>The banner showed potraits of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin, and
>Stalin's was the biggest. To go to the workshops and seminars of the ESF
>under Stalin's portrait caused very bad feelings. Stalin was a mass
>murderer, who let murder tens of millions of people and who also made a
>treaty with Hitler, when it served to save his power. At latest with 
>stalin,
>the emancipatory goal of the left has lost its innocence. Since then, it is
>a challenge of every emancipatory movement to have a close look and to
>oppose any kind of exploitation and terror, whoever causes these.
>
>Unfortunately, at the ESF 2006, there has not been the opportunity yet to
>discuss this development in a broader way. The organisation office replied
>to complaints concerning the Stalin banner: "every party is admitted, hence
>also Stalinist parties". For human beings that take human emancipation
>seriously, the consequence can only be to exclude parties from future
>forums, and re-install the charter from Porto Alegre. Only without parties,
>the European Social Forum can remain an open space for the globalization
>critique movement!
>
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