[fse-esf] Proposals for speakers of big events Athens ESF

[Campaign GENOA 2001-Greece]

Dear Yiannis, dear all

As you can see from the information letter below Yiannis is giving 
emphasis that there is "absolutely" no consensus since some of us 
referred just that there was "no consensus" to our proposal for 
speakers. It would add more to the oppeness and transparency of the 
process if anyone from Greek Social Forum put on the list of the 
other proposal for speakers from Greek Social Forum as we had it on 
the last meeting. Also, if people explained the reasons for not 
having consensus ie their arguments for and against some speakers or 
the structure of the events.
The relation between events and seminars is important. Some people 
want to impose defacto a lack of visibility of ESF referring to main 
struggles by just stopping the process of coming to an agreement on 
big events and promoting a vision of a decentralized Forum- even 
more extreme than the disaster of Porto Allegre- based on promoting 
the fragmentation of the movement.
If people think that visibility will be achieved through big 
concerts like the antiracist and the antiwar this would simply make 
the appeal of ESF to the movements very weak and inefficient.
If they think that another process can achieve this I would be open 
to listen.
Fratenally
Petros

Yannis Almpanis <yannisalmpanis at hotmail.com> åßðå:

> 
> Dear all,
> 
> as it is easily understood that there is absolutely no consensus 
by the 
> Greek Social forum in this proposal. And we cannot understand what 
is the 
> link between these discussions and the merger process.
> We as Greek Social Forum we keep on working hard for the succes of 
the whole 
> project of the ESF (and this includes a succesful merger process) 
and we are 
> not only interested in having "our" speakers on the floor.
> 
> best regards
> 
> Yannis Almpanis-Greek Social Froum
> 
> 
> >From: "Campaign GENOA  2001-Greece" <jspg at otenet.gr>
> >To: <fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org>
> >Subject: [fse-esf] Proposals for speakers of big events Athens ESF
> >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:16:55 -0000
> >
> >Dear  friends,
> >This is the proposal made by Stop the War Coalition, Campaign 
Genoa
> >2001 and Political Ecology
> >
> >The following 4 events were agreed at Frankfurt Preparatory 
Assembly
> >to be Organized by Greek Organising Committee for the needs of the
> >greek movement.That is to secure visibility of ESFin greek society
> >in relation with the great struggles against neoliberal 
government,
> >to open a debate on strategies and alternative solutions
> >toneoliberalism,war, European Union and Climate Change, to give
> >space for activists-representatives of mass
> >movements,intellectuals,trade unionists,enviromentalists etc to
> >engage in a dialogue for the future of the movement.
> >
> >1.NEOLIBERALISM,ALTERNATIVES
> >
> >SUSAN GEORGE,LENIN PEREZ,UNT-VENEZOUELA, DEMETRIS
> >TSOUKALAS,PRESIDENT BANK EMPLOYEES UNION, PRESIDENT OF UNION OF
> >FERTILIZERS FACTORY, DESPINA SPANOU,ADEDY-PUBLIC EMPLOYES UNION,
> >PANOS GARGANAS-GENOA 2001,KOSTAS VERGOPOULOS.ACADEMIC AND
> >WRITER,FRANCE
> >
> >2.CLIMATE CHANGE
> >
> >KOSTAS DIAKOS-POLITICAL ECOLOGY, BELLAMY FOSTER, MANNY TANNOH-
GHANA
> >ACTIVIST AGAINST PRIVATIZATION OF WATER, TREVOR NGUANE,APF,
> >ALSO SPEAKERS WERE PROPOSED BY GREEK ENVIROMENTALISTS AS TASOS
> >KREMYDAS,STELIOS PSOMAS, ACTIVISTS FROM GREENLAND,BULGARIA. THE
> >GROUP OF ENVIROMENTALIST MUST PRESENT A FINAL LIST OF 7-8 
SPEAKERS.
> >
> >3.EUROPE
> >
> >SAMIR AMIN, ELISABETH GAUTIER,MARIA STYLLOU-GENOA 2001, BORIS
> >KAGKARLITKSI, ALEX CALLINICOS,TOBIAS PFULGER,Michalis 
Papagiannakis
> >
> >4.WAR AND ANTIWAR MOVEMENT
> >
> >WALDEN BELLO, CHRIS NINEHAM-STOP WAR UK, UFPJ, LESLIE LE BLANC,
> >HASSAN AWAD JUMAA, BASRA OIL UNION/ HUMAN RIGTHS IRAQ, BAK-TURKEY
> >FROM KESK, ELAHEL ROSTAMI POVEY ON IRAN, PALESTINIAN AGREED 
BETWEEN
> >PLO AND PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY,YIANNIS SIFAKAKIS,STOP WAR GREECE.
> >TZAVED ASLAM, PAKISTAN COMMUNITY OF GREECE
> >
> >The first meeting of the greek Organising Group did not arrived 
to a
> >consensus.  The final meeting of the Greek Programm Group will 
take
> >place next Tuesday 28/3.
> >
> >Petros Constantinou,Genoa 2001
> >Kostas Diakos,Political Ecology
> >Yiannis Sifakakis,Stop War Coalition
> >
> >PS. Before any conclusion wecannot finalize our proposals for
> >mergers of seminars.An ESF without big events is an innovation and
> >thismeans that we will reconsider our approach for the process of
> >seminars.
> >--
> >Petros Constantinou
> >Campaign GENOA 2001-Greece
> >0030 6932828964
> >
> >
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-- 
Petros Constantinou
Campaign GENOA 2001-Greece
0030 6932828964