[fse-esf] Democracy demands political parties' participation in the ESF, and

[Alp Altinors]

The 'non-existence' of the political parties in the Social Forum process is 
just a myth. The reality is their  existence, covered by pseudonyms. The 
Social Forum of Turkey takes as a principle, the existence of the parties in 
the Forum. This is an open and democratic attitude. Also in the WSF and the 
ESF should it be free. The Charter is not a holy book, it is a political 
document which reflects a certain moment of the movement. It can be changed. 
Waiting 'dogmatic' obedience to this Charter, although it had been surpassed 
by real life is something that chokes the necesities of the movement.

ALP ALTINORS
Socialist Platform of the Oppressed (ESP), Turkey-N. Kurdistan


>From: vickimrrs at aol.com
>To: fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Subject: [fse-esf] Democracy demands political parties' participation in 
>the ESF, and openness about it
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:34:55 -0400
>
>
>Another world is possible only if we deal with reality. One part of the 
>reality we face is that the European Social Forums and, arguably, the World 
>Social Forum would simply not happen without the involvement of political 
>parties. That being so, the most democratic way we can deal with political 
>parties (I'm in a political group myself, by the way) is to be honest and 
>open about their existence. I do think the Porto Alegro charter has to be 
>ignored or, preferably, changed in this regard. The democracy of the ESF is 
>being stifled, in part by the subterfuge and pretence around the 
>participation of political parties, and this rottenness at our heart 
>shouldn't be allowed to continue. The democracy of this altermondialist 
>movement is more important than anything else, including complying with 
>every dot and comma of the Porto Alegro charter (itself a political 
>document, after all). Well, that's what I think!
>Vicki Morris
>No Sweat and Alliance for Workers’ Liberty
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: judith.dellheim at web.de
>To: alex.callinicos at kcl.ac.uk; fse-esf at lists.fse-esf.org
>Sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 6.29AM
>Subject: Re: [fse-esf] Statement by Socialist Workers Party (Britain) on 
>Mumbai Bombings
>
>
>Dear Friends,
>I ask about the legitimacy of such e-mails on our list. If the Charta of 
>Porto Alegre is the basis of the social forum process we can't accept the 
>permanent offence against it. Parties are not allowed to particiapate in 
>the social forum process and we all should stop tolerating the violation of 
>this princip.
>In solidarity
>Judith Dellheim


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